Rebalance Earth Podcast

Episode 2 - The Economic Case for Valuing Nature as an Asset Class - Eoin Murray

In this episode of the Rebalance Earth podcast, host Walid Al Saqqaf speaks with Eoin Murray, a seasoned fund manager with over 34 years of experience, about "The Economic Case for Valuing Nature as an Asset Class". Eoin, who brings a unique perspective as both a financial expert and a volunteer in search and rescue, shares his insights on the intersection of finance and nature conservation.Eoin discusses his journey from traditional finance to sustainable investing, and his current work on developing the SEED index at Crowther Lab. He presents the case for nature as an asset class, discussing its potential for attractive returns, risk mitigation, and portfolio diversification. Eoin also delves into successful nature-based investments, such as the Wyre catchment natural flood management project, and explores the potential of marine ecosystem restoration.The episode covers important topics like the nature financing gap in the UK, the role of different types of investors in nature-based solutions, and the interplay between government, private sector, and financial institutions in driving greater investments in nature. Eoin's perspective on scaling up nature investments and his insights on reforming our financial system to better value nature provide listeners with a fresh outlook on sustainable finance.Whether you're an investor, policymaker, or simply interested in the future of sustainable finance, this episode offers valuable insights into how we can harness the power of finance to protect and restore our natural world. Tune in to learn about the groundbreaking work Rebalance Earth is doing in this space.

Episode 1 - Introduction to Rebalance Earth - Robert Gardner

Introducing the very first episode of the Rebalance Earth podcast—a show that explores the future of finance, sustainability, and how nature can become an investable asset class. In this debut episode, host Walid Al Saqqaf, CTO and co-founder of Rebalance Earth, speaks with Rob Gardner, CEO and co-founder of Rebalance Earth, for a discussion on the intersection of nature and finance.
Rob’s background in investment banking, pensions, and asset management gives him a unique perspective on why finance and nature must work together if we’re going to build a world worth living in. He shares his journey from growing up in Holland, where he first became aware of rising environmental risks, to his career in finance, and ultimately, how he’s become a leading voice in reshaping capitalism to recognise the value of nature.
This episode is packed with fascinating insights, including Rob’s vision of treating nature as an asset class. He argues that, like property or infrastructure, nature has immense value—through its utility, scarcity, and ability to generate cash flow. But here’s where it gets really exciting: Rob shows how investing in nature can actually make businesses more resilient, cost-effective, and future-proof.
From tackling major challenges like flooding and water scarcity in the UK to demonstrating how pension funds can fuel large-scale environmental restoration, Rob makes a compelling case for why businesses and investors need to rethink their approach to nature. He even shares how the West Yorkshire Pension Fund has already made a strategic investment into Rebalance Earth, proving that this isn’t just theory—it’s happening right now.
If you’re passionate about sustainability, curious about the future of finance, or looking for ways to make a meaningful impact, this episode is a must-listen. Rob Gardner’s optimism and forward-thinking strategies will leave you inspired to rethink how we can reshape the global financial system to support both business and the planet.
This first episode sets the tone for the Rebalance Earth podcast series, to explore innovative ideas at the intersection of finance, sustainability, and nature conservation. 
It offers listeners a glimpse into the potential for reimagining our economic systems to create a more sustainable and resilient future.
So, whether you’re an investor, a corporate leader, or simply someone who cares about the future of our world, tune in to the Rebalance Earth podcast now.